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Re: Pruga Usora - Teslić - Pribinić (Usoratalbahn)
Poslato: 05 Dec 2018, 09:35
od Igor Legaz
PECELJ piše:Šumske železnice u okolini Teslića
Ovdje je opisana Vrbanjathalbahn prema istoku:
Malo onih stanovnika današnjih Šipraga koji se sjećaju da je prvi val europizacije i intenzivnijeg razvoja stigao prilikom obimnih radova na izgradnji uskotračne željezničke pruge ("štreke"). Primarna namjera austrijskih vlasti je bila da, uz posredovanje Zemaljske vlade u BiH, intenzivira eksploataciju šumskog blaga i ostalih prirodnih resursa. Pruga je dolazla iz Kotor-Varoša, a na području Šipraga se račvala u nekoliko pravaca. Uz Demićku je išla do pod Dunića stijena (825 m n/v), a uz Crkvenicu do Griča (823 m n/v). Od Kruševa Brda su išla dva kraka: uz Vrbanju i Bobovicu. Trasa uz Vrbanju, od Čudnića je vodila preko Kilavca do "Čekrka", a zatim – nakon transporta lokomotive ( pomoću "čekrka" , u klancu išmeđu Šepirica i Jasena) – do Riječica (1300 m n/v). Odvojak uz Bobovicu je prolazio kroz selo Bobovice, pa između Palike i Pašinca do Srebrenog brda (prema Meokrnju), tj. do ušća potoka Krna (921 m n/v)
https://mojkotorvaros.blogspot.com/2016 ... e.html?m=1
Skica, koju ste postavili, g. Pecelj, očigledno se odnosila na neostvarenu zamisao da se tunelom povežu Usorathalbahn i Vrbanjathalbahn.
Pruga na skici kroz Kotor Varoš, također nije ostvarena.
Na fotografiji se vidi vlak na mostu kod vodopada Bobas u Kotor Varoši koji vozi prema Obodniku
Re: Pruga Usora - Teslić - Pribinić (Usoratalbahn)
Poslato: 05 Dec 2018, 11:05
od železocestnik
Za lokomotivu U.36 (Kraus Linz: tv. broj 5799 iz 1907. godine) ima Chester prvi podatak za vrijeme prvog svetskog rata (20.10.1916), kada razpolaže sa lokomotivom Centralna transportna komanda. Posle rata je SHS U.36, posle Željezara Zenica.
Pospichal ima podatak, da je 9.1916 prešla na kukHV (Mladenovac) i 20.10.1917 na Štajnbajsovu železnicu. Posle: SHS, Rudnik Ljubija, Željezara Zenica
KrLi
5799/07 C1t-n2 kkStB
U.36, xx.09.1916> kukHV (Mladenovac)
20.10.1917: Steinbeis; SHS, Rudnik Ljubija, Željezara Zenica
Dakle za
U.36 uopšte se nezna, kde i kada je radila
od 1907 do 09.1916 
pozdrav
Darko
Re: Pruga Usora - Teslić - Pribinić (Usoratalbahn)
Poslato: 05 Dec 2018, 11:35
od Igor Legaz
Za lokomotivu U.36 (Kraus Linz: tv. broj 5799 iz 1907. godine) ima Chester prvi podatak za vrijeme prvog svetskog rata (20.10.1916), kada razpolaže sa lokomotivom Centralna transportna komanda. Posle rata je SHS U.36, posle Željezara Zenica.
Pospichal ima podatak, da je 9.1916 prešla na kukHV (Mladenovac) i 20.10.1917 na Štajnbajsovu železnicu. Posle: SHS, Rudnik Ljubija, Željezara Zenica
KrLi 5799/07 C1t-n2 kkStB U.36, xx.09.1916> kukHV (Mladenovac) 20.10.1917: Steinbeis; SHS, Rudnik Ljubija, Željezara Zenica
Dakle za U.36 uopšte se nezna, kde i kada je radila od 1907 do 09.1916
Na toj fotografiji ima "zaštitni znak", navodno, "portala mjesne zajednice Maslovare". Sad vidim da je napisano "Maslovare.tk" , a takve "tk" web adrese nema (ili je ugašena). Moguće je da su neki iseljenici iz Maslovara, koji sad žive u Turskoj, iskoristili neku lokomotivu i pripisali je Maslovarama.
Sad sam našao službeni portal mjesne zajednice Maslovare:
http://maslovare.ucoz.net/index/0-7
Tu je napisano da su ruski zarobljenici gradili Vrbanjathalbahn.
Ponavljam, valja pokrenuti "
Vrbanjathalbahn", kao posebnu temu među industrijskim prugama u BiH.
Re: Pruga Usora - Teslić - Pribinić (Usoratalbahn)
Poslato: 05 Dec 2018, 11:51
od Igor Legaz
Da korigiram sebe:
Na fotografiji se vidi vlak na mostu kod vodopada Bobas u Kotor Varoši koji vozi prema Obodniku
Vlak vozi niz Vrbanju, dakle od Obodnika, a ne "prema" Obodniku.
Vodopad Bobas je prvi od ova dva na video zapisu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2v58gzPynU
Re: Pruga Usora - Teslić - Pribinić (Usoratalbahn)
Poslato: 21 Maj 2019, 13:18
od ivanjz
Železnčka stanica Usora.
http://www.google.com
Re: Pruga Usora - Teslić - Pribinić (Usoratalbahn)
Poslato: 26 Nov 2019, 09:52
od ivanjz
Mesovita kompozicija u zeleznickoj stanici Usora sa lokomotivom Unnra 30 na celu.
Re: Pruga Usora - Teslić - Pribinić (Usoratalbahn)
Poslato: 25 Nov 2020, 22:56
od ivanjz
Re: Pruga Usora - Teslić - Pribinić (Usoratalbahn)
Poslato: 08 Jun 2021, 22:47
od hosdo
Dobro veče!
Sorry if I still write in English but I'm Italian. I started to visit the Kulaši area three years ago because of my wife's family and only later learned about the narrow gauge line.
I've been there several times already, but still can't understand where the narrow gauge line was before the transformation into normal gauge.
When we take the road to the village of Popovići where grandparents live, there's a steel bridge used by the road just outside Kulaši that to me resembles clearly a narrow gauge bridge but it seems more likely that it was just reused after the line was closed.
Did any pictures of Kulaši ever surfaced?
Also, grandma told us that she remember traveling to a relative in Čečava and going there by train with the "Čiro" and that she took it "when the train was inside the town of Kulaši". Makes sense since the normal gauge doesn't go through Čečava but probably the Kulaši - Teslić line did.
Re: Pruga Usora - Teslić - Pribinić (Usoratalbahn)
Poslato: 09 Jun 2021, 12:05
od PECELJ
hosdo piše: ↑08 Jun 2021, 22:47
Dobro veče!
Sorry if I still write in English but I'm Italian. I started to visit the Kulaši area three years ago because of my wife's family and only later learned about the narrow gauge line.
I've been there several times already, but still can't understand where the narrow gauge line was before the transformation into normal gauge.
When we take the road to the village of Popovići where grandparents live, there's a steel bridge used by the road just outside Kulaši that to me resembles clearly a narrow gauge bridge but it seems more likely that it was just reused after the line was closed.
Did any pictures of Kulaši ever surfaced?
Also, grandma told us that she remember traveling to a relative in Čečava and going there by train with the "Čiro" and that she took it "when the train was inside the town of Kulaši". Makes sense since the normal gauge doesn't go through Čečava but probably the Kulaši - Teslić line did.
Kulaši si verovatno bili na šumskoj pruzi koja je vodila Od Teslića ka Blatnici :
- 800px-Schema_DobojBanjaLuka.jpg (60.02 KiB) Pregledano 3151 put
- Blatnica -12.JPG (133.71 KiB) Pregledano 3151 put
- UsoratalWaldbahnzug Blatnica 1967.jpg (127.67 KiB) Pregledano 3151 put
Re: Pruga Usora - Teslić - Pribinić (Usoratalbahn)
Poslato: 17 Avg 2021, 09:36
od hosdo
Greetings
Finally had a day to spend for trains around Bosnia, I couldn't reach all my destination but it was definitely fun.
About the topic, first leg of my trip was from Kulaši to Teslić in hope of finding anything related to the old railroad. After passing Čečava, the road R473 was winding around the land but I was still focused on manufacts around. And in Osivica my attention got caught by a flag pole with a familiar look.
My girlfriend was pretty puzzled as I was like "that is a rail". And it was, definitely a narrow gauge straight rail.
Now, I can't be totally sure that the Kulaši Teslić line was actually passing through the town of Osivica, maps don't tell much. However it was really the right object in the right place in my honest opinion.
Next year I'd like to go back to Teslić and check a crossing on one side of the Destilacija plant because I'm totally sure that tracks were still visible in the road.